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Czech Republic: Second Most Negative Country

Czech Republic: Second Most Negative Country

Why was the Czech Republic recently named one of the most pessimistic countries in the world?

Czech Republic: Second Most Negative Country

Czech Republic: Second Most Negative Country

Why was the Czech Republic recently named one of the most pessimistic countries in the world?

Published 10.09.2013
Last updated 10.09.2013

One of the troublesome things about living in the Czech Republic is not the alleged poor service, xenophobia, slowness of the bureaucracy or any other complaint we expats have. It is the tendency for Czechs to be negative, often exceedingly negative, toward their fellow countrymen and women. People have a right to their opinions and a certain self-deprecation is welcome over rampant national pride. In fact it can be refreshing. But over the years I can’t help but think the negativity might be a little too extreme and that it has implications for a country I currently call home.

Modesty vs. negativity

Coming from Australia, a country where boisterous nationalism is practically a default setting, I’m aware that any opinion about one’s country which doesn’t include people wearing flags as capes or reminding anyone who will listen how much better everything is at home will possibly appear slightly derogatory. Furthermore, there is a saying here, “small but ours”,  which tends to play up the modesty. (Of course not all people live up to these ideas.)

But the negativity I have encountered was not misconstrued modesty; it was unequivocally hostile. A number of Czechs I’ve met have voiced a clear dislike for Czech people and/or the Czech country either directly to me or around me. The comments have come from a range of people who aren’t always connected.

A family friend upon meeting me at a gathering asked, “Why do you want to live in this s#!t republic?” An older man from the same social circle complained about having to drink with the Czechs, when he himself was Czech. I’ve had a woman repeatedly tell me she doesn’t like it here, though she’s lived here for the better part of her life and a younger man tell me he wished he wasn’t Czech. And I overheard one Czech colleague say to another Czech colleague “Czechs are stupid,” in Czech of course.

Some of the comments can be less severe. But it’s remarkable how often it comes up. I’ve been told numerous times how Czechs “know how to get around laws”. When going to a bank for the first time, the clerk warned me that Czechs steal. I’m not sure how that was meant to make me feel more reassured about leaving my money with them.

Academically speaking

I thought that maybe it was just me and my skewed view. (I’m willing to concede that in part some of it may still be that.) But Ladislav Holý’s book, The Little Czech and the Great Czech Nation, contains research which corresponds to what I’m talking about. Holý pointed to two polls, one conducted in 1990 and a second carried out two years later, which asked Czechs to describe themselves. In the earliest poll, the most common traits were all negative: envious, conformist, egotistical, and cunning. Two years later, the results changed little. Cunning replaced egotistical as the third most common response and all the traits were remarked upon more often. Only one positive trait “hard-working” entered the top four responses in the later poll.

As much as the data seems to directly confirm the prevalence of negativity, the findings are over two decades old. What do more recent surveys show? While none address this question specifically, a number of other surveys reveal that negativity of one sort continues. However, the picture is complex.

Sixty four percent of respondents to a Stem survey in 2008 said they didn’t trust their fellow citizens. A poll from last year showed that more than half of Czechs wanted to live abroad. Among the young the figure is as high 70%. The old Czech saying “Všude dobře, doma nejlíp” (Everywhere good, at home the best) might not apply anymore.

Jan Červenka from the Sociological Institute of the Academy of Sciences (Sociologický Ústav Akademie Věd) was less concerned about the later point.

“This yearning [to live abroad] is, for young people who don’t have their own family, typical enough,” he said.
However, he didn’t dismiss the negativity toward the social and economic situation so readily. Though results show a drop from the pessimistic highs (or should that be lows) at the turn of the millennium when 72% of people thought the economic situation was bad or very bad, a significant chunk of society – 45% – remain pessimistic about the situation. A slightly smaller number (36%), admittedly from a different survey, are dissatisfied with the direction the country is heading. Even more, 41% said the country was heading nowhere.

This mood ranks the Czech Republic as the second most pessimistic nation on Earth in 2012. Greece, with its collapsed economy, is first. Even post-earthquake Haiti rated as less pessimistic. It can be argued that the economic crisis, which has left a record number of people unemployed, and the political situation are fuelling the feeling.

Yet, some data shows a silver lining around the grey clouds. The Center for Public Opinion Research at the Sociological Institute revealed that Czechs display pride in history, arts, music, literature, and above all sport. To that I would add – at least based on personal experience – Czech films, industry, and, of course, beer.

Why care?

I was motivated to look into this because the negativity alarmed me but I also wanted to put that alarm into some context. I hope Mr. Červenka is right when he says that the feeling isn’t permanent. Even if it isn’t, it’s hard not to see the negativity as being a barrier to integration. It’s hard to settle here when a large chunk of the people you meet ask you constantly why you want to live here and don’t seem satisfied with the positive reasons you give.

It also has to impact on the economy and social development. Will people bother to be innovative and take risks – which improves lives for locals as much as expats – if they have ill-feelings toward others?

“As for the question of whether negative attitudes can affect the economy, I think it has influence because of our attitudes and expectations affect our behavior,” Mr. Červenka said.

I’m not suggesting flag waving jingoism is the answer, but a shift toward the center has to be better than the current mood. Maybe a little more pride is the missing ingredient.

What have been your experiences? And do you think the negativity has an influence on or is it merely part of the culture?

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many many czech people are disgusting very very angry, very very rude, cold mean useless, i know many examples, my latest example is like this : Prague international airport is place of bunch of shameless czech gate workers women , horrible rude uncivilized airport ever. I flew on the 21 st of July by flight number SU 2011, by Aerolfot, when i arrived in the gate 23 just before the boarding the plane, there were 4-5 women checking passengers' tickets. I had 3 items like laptop , cabin size luggage and small bagpack. I was using my small backpack as my handbag, inside there were my valuable suveners and my expensive cellphone, toothbrush etc very light few items. Blonde czech woman who tied her hair and another czech woman with black hair demanded me to leave my bagpack there and threatened me if i dont leave my bagpack they will not board me and plane will fly in few minutes or to pay 100 euro for my bagpack. Unfortunately i dont have 100 euro , and then under their demand, i gave my bagpack to them.
After 2 days, i called them to tell my friends in Czech Republic will come to the vaclav havel airport to get my bagpack. Shamelelssly they said they didnt take my bagpack so they dont know where my bagpack is. After i continuesly wrote them and argued, they told me that "yes it is true that we took your bagpack but we dont have your bagpack now". Until now they are not giving me back my bagpack with my cellphone.On their finally email , they told me " please be kind and dont ask your bagpack from us and dont send your friends to collect your bagpack, bcz we dont have your bagpack anymore with us.
It is very very weird situation. I want to know what they have done with my bagpack and especially with my cellphone.
Actually from the first, they were looking very weird , after i left my bagpack i noticed some kind of joys appeared on their faces, they were just looking like beasts to attack to the prey ( my left bagpack). They seemed they already accustomed to get passenegers items and divide valuable things and throw rest ones into the rubbish. On the same day, when i reached Shermetoyva airport , i asked gate managers abt this case , they were horrified by this story and said it is shocking, and also said according to airline rule, those czech gate women workers must give it to the lost and found department, they must not use items of passengers and they must not throw it to the rubbish bin. It is airline rule.
It is so shameless that those czech women dont care Czech Republic fame and stole passengers' item without giving it to the related department and throw it to the rubbish bin. How can i get back at leas my cellphone from those shameless czech women??

12.53.16 15.08.2017

Communism has nothing to do with slavic mentality..slav to slav is an enemy, so how can anyone else be friend to the most poshof the slavs- the czech! Except of course blue jeans and heros americans.

21.24.43 23.07.2017

It is the education system in Czech Republic--it teaches hate and spite. Just check out the attitudes of young people in prague in the trams--they are rude, disrespectful and aggressive

20.17.25 27.06.2017

It's amazing. The exact same can be said about my own country - Poland. I have a feeling that communism is the reason for this (at least for the traits listed in this article). Especially that I've watched a pre-war documentary about people living in Warsaw and they seemed much more 'normal', optimistic etc. (NOT 'Polish' at all). I hope it changes though (maybe in a 50 years or so). I wish the same to Czechs and all eastern bloc countries.

I'm a Pole who's lived 1.5 years in London.

14.01.52 07.05.2017

I am from Eastern Europe myself, a bit further East of CZ..and nothing surprises me. We too have a very negative and self-deprecating way of looking at ourselves...or should I say THEY have, as I no definitely don't identify myself with that kind of attitude towards life.

21.12.14 28.04.2017

I have not read the whole article but I would say you attract what/who you are....just saying...negativity attracts negativity...maybe you are around old Czech people, if not, then you should start thinking what's wrong with you. Maybe you are that negative person who needs to change his attitude to finally attract positive people ;)

23.56.49 22.04.2017

First of all, this opinion is very pesimistic and negative itself... all above said is true but its just like pick up the worst and then label whole nation... I know exactly what you mean but if you live in CZ for longer time and you are meeting just (mostly) idiots and negative people it means only one, something wrong must be on your side... I dont mean in in offensive or any bad way of meaning, its just fact. I meet rude, stupid, negative people, just what is described, but I am randomly meeting the exact of opposite of that and those are not any exeptions or even minority I would say.. honestly!
1) dealing with rudeness.. just be prepared it could happen... dont go like HELOOO :-)) because this very possitive (real/ mostly little bit pretended) attidue is trigger what drives negative (or just in bad mood) people crazy.. I am always slightly polite but emotionaly moreless neutral or just sligtly warm at least untill I got some feedback from them.. anywya.. no hard feelings from that, its not personal.. I am always laughing when I am telling some shit story to my celagues at work next day :).

I have noticed that forigners attracked a lot of Czechs with wierd negative atti towards their own nation.. and this negative attitude is just a top of iceberg of other qualities which they have.. like oportunism and poserims.. or if your working collective is bad, change it.. because good people cannt stand to be there... and situation is staying in shits.. I have experienced several working collectives and they could not be more different..

Trust me, despite all of that shit what is happening to you here there are also brighter sides of nation and I wish maybe more than you altogether you will discover them also.. good luck! :)

14.46.28 02.04.2017

I have not read the whole of it, but the initial paras are soo true according to my own 5 months experience. These people are rude, inhuman (have strong reasons to say that) and their less knowledge of english is icing on the cake!!
I hope i get to meet only exceptions for the rest of my stay here..

00.32.50 22.03.2017

Do any of the naysayers (of Czech pessimism, Czech rudeness, Czech dishonesty, Czech apathy and so on, speak any Czech? I am talking about more than just ordering a beer. I am talking about being able to find one or two words in the Czech language that show the joyful complexities of humanity in its simplest form and which the Czech express well: irony, appreciation for a fellow human on a one-to-one basis, the warm conversations between a Czech parent and the child. My inspiration to share this comes from observing and being part of countless such experiences. I find that the majority of people who complain do not care to learn the language, even after living there for many years - even with a Czech spouse and a half-Czech child. Also, I find them to be quite sincere. If you have a sunny personality and attitude, and care to make the effort to speak Czech - even badly - and can laugh at yourself, Czechs very quickly warm to your warmth and your humanity. Plus, when you say "let's meet for lunch" they take you seriously. In these ways, you know where you stand with them. They have more integrity in this regard than people from "friendlier or more 'optimistic' cultures"where insincere friendliness is the norm. A Czech may say "no" or evade a "yes" - but when it is a "yes" it is a far more sincere one. People who only see the negative in Czechs are more or less as pessimistic (and far more narrow-minded) than the Czechs themselves, who, as some Czech commentators below have themselves said, have been subjected to the will of many other nations with more military or economic might. Considering their history and all the foreigners who live there - and who never learn even the basis of the Czech language because Czechs are progressive enough to learn English and make life easy for them, well, perhaps they should learn to embrace the way of thinking of their hosts, and make some effort to move towards them, and inspire them to be more optimistic. At least the Czechs are honest when asked how they are. They take "how are you?" seriously and answer seriously. When they are pleased with something, that is equally sincere. It gets tiresome to read articles that speak disparagingly of a people whose only defense against such criticism is their wonderful, rich culture and their unaggressive disapproval of things that they don't like. Anyone who doesn't like their pessimism should try moving away and living in a country where people are nice to their face but intolerant and/or aggressive as time moves forward, and their other colors start to show. Czechs - at least in Prague - are very tolerant towards others. I lived there for nine years. At worst, I was tolerated and left alone to live my life; at best, I was helped (even by strangers), befriended and loved. I love the Czech Republic and its people and they are nowhere near as negative as they are portrayed here - which shows them in a limited and very partial context.

22.25.24 05.12.2016

czechs are the most idiotic people I ever met. its the upbringing. Just be rude and you will be at home.

07.25.28 28.11.2016

Beeing optimistic I would say that maybe this is not completely wrong. It could be that our education system (which curently needs some fresh blood - no doupt) was originally not so bad. It could be that people discarded all the old "cheap believes" in either some church/ strong personality/ political or economical system/ everything they see or hear from mass media and started to see real issues and see the "whole picture" more clearly. Imho it can be also some effect of actual rise in the overall living standard (giving people more time to think about things). My point is, that even if you see more clearly (we would say without pink glasses). It is still important to believe in something. For example I belive in other people. I believe that everyone will eventually overcome this and become more emphatized/ will again find way to each other even without being connected by a war or some kind of these "cheap believes". ...And yes I know it is nearly impossible. But I also don't say that it will come tommorow or during the rest of our lives. This process will be more like a evolution and could take few thousand years. (I'm not an expat. I just live in Czech Republic.)

06.26.04 12.08.2016

I agree, I actually think communism could have played its role in it; we can't blame everything on it, however it was the time when people could not trust anyone - neighbor, colleague...
I have to say the longer I live abroad, the prouder I am to be Czech :) It may take a few generations to get over it

03.47.53 12.08.2016

Hm. I am Czech (Moravian) living in Brno since my birth. I lived in Australia for several years, travelled US, NZ and other countries. I happily came back home and since that time I am living here (even if many people asked me why I didn´t stay in Australia). I am surrounded by nice, emphatic, positive people and I don´t complain neither on my life (nor other Czechs) at all. You cannot generalize it, it differs from man to man. I love my country and I am happy that I live just here.

04.53.10 26.06.2016

The politicians are partly to blame for this negativity: scandals about stealing, corruption and all left czech people hopeless.

13.41.53 03.06.2016

Let me explain. Consider injustice we czechs are exposed to ... by our own fellow citizens! No surprise some of ous rather dig in the grounds than walk among others, if our visions and ideals also mean nothing in face of others or in face of world that surrounds us. Is it not natural to feel depression or as you call it negativity, when you are exposed to hostile influences constantly? Hey fish, look - water! Swim! That water was filthy, my friend.

11.08.48 19.03.2016

Comment from: glaw Published: 08:06:27 06.04.2015
Podle me,Czech people are generally better behaved than people from other European Countries.People tend to mind their own business here,I only have Czech friends here,to generalize and say all Czechs are negative and unhappy is utter Rubbish.Im a South African,so obviously there is a huge difference between life in Europe versus Mother Africa.My take on Czech Republic and its people is a positive one.Beautiful country,good people great food and Safe. Nashledanou
Comment from: Arturo.Garcia Published: 07:10:16 03.04.2015
Who cares, the women are great and totally the opposite of Czech men!
jimmy dodds(Guest) Published: 04:44:52 03.04.2015
You obviously haven't spent long here. Some of them are the most obnoxious people I have ever met, honestly. They break the law as and when they want to, primitive behaviour, bad manners, no savvy etc etc. No wonder they hate themselves
Comment from: joey .spagh Published: 12:59:26 27.03.2015
whats the first most negative country. I want to go there.
Comment from: Rob_Prague_2004 Published: 11:40:04 26.03.2015
Maybe I have a biased sample, as I tend to mix with "international" Czechs who speak foreign languages so could live elsewhere but tend to stay here. I don't feel the envy or negativity from them that is described in other posts, though for monoglot Czechs in low paying jobs that can't travel and actually see the grass is not necessarily greener on the other side of the border might feel this way. One thing I've noticed here that is not entirely negative, is the near absence of the "my country is the best" ethnocentrism you see in UK, France, US etc. To the few that do say they don't like it here and why am I here as it's better in the UK, I advise them that the borders are open and they can try the UK if they think it's so great there. For my part, I experienced the dirt, congestion and chaos of Paris last week. Prague feels like a paradise by comparison!
Comment from: Arturo.Garcia Published: 11:58:52 25.03.2015
Have to be honest, almost every Czech I've met says the same thing "I don't like it here, Why do you want to live here" It is so often that it surprises me. We need to bring scientists to give us an explanation. They also seem to watch many American films where the USA seems like an Utopian society, I can assure you, it is not. My 2 cents.
Lisatka(Guest) Published: 01:06:11 25.03.2015
I lived in czech republic until i was 18 and then i moved to amsterdam, and later to south africa. When i returned to czech republic 8 or so years later, it was a culture shock for me. And it still is...i am outgoing person, so i had no problem meeting new people here when i arrived. The problem started when i got to know czech people better. I didnt want to be their friend any more. In south africa, when you succeed in something, you get a new computer, house etc, or you go on holiday, people are happy for you. And czech people? It took me some time to realise, but they are jeleous. They dont realise that everybody has something and everybody has some problems too. That they have a new kitchen and i spent my money on a trip to egypt instread. That they have less money because they have two kids and the mother is on maternity leave while i have one kid and i work part time. Furthermore, czech people should be more greatful for what they have and be proud of their accomplishments. When theycan be proud of themselves, they can also be proud of their school, town and their country. However , this will take some time to change and i hope i can find a new home country for my son.
Comment from: SeoKungFu Published: 11:02:50 28.01.2015
At least there is enough booze and weed, as well as pretty good sights and nature to get over and deal with it, indeed !
txczech(Guest) Published: 06:43:48 28.01.2015
Hmm, I find this interesting because I too am a pessimist, though of Czech ancestry only. My ancestors immigrated to Texas over 130 years ago from Czech lands. I find it annoying that other people don't get my pessimism. My family is pessimistic, other people of Czech ancestry here are pessimistic? Why wouldn't I be? I'm not convinced of the author's theory that this pessimism is in fact temporary. I don't speak the Czech language nor do most 'Czech' people here. Perhaps the pessimism comes from a mistrust in the security of society? After all Czech lands were invaded century after century on end. Perhaps it comes from thinking logically. A balance to the mask of optimism that exist everywhere else. Or maybe that's just how Czech people are. 130 years and an ocean away I don't the pessimism is just going to disappear from a society when that something that is so engrained in the thought process.
Comment from: Sigma Published: 09:39:09 16.12.2014
Many Canadian people also dislike Toronto because people from the city think it is the centre of the universe ;)
Sarka Prokopova(Guest) Published: 04:42:25 16.12.2014
I'd like to add my two cents worth here seeing that I am Czech and have lived on 3 continents. I was born in Brno, moved to Johannesburg in SA when I was 8 and lived there for 16 years. Currently I live in Toronto, Canada (having lived before that in Czech Rep for 2.5 years). To be honest I had much higher expectations for Toronto (it being called one of the best cities to live in in the world) but to be honest, this city is as fake as it can be. Initially people smile and greet you, but in all honesty they couldn't give a damn about you. It is very hard to break into the social circles here UNLESS they can benefit from you. People here are cold, they will not look you into the eye when walking along the famed Bay Street in downtown (aka Wall Street of Toronto). If I compare it to Czech (and my family still lives here) I would say that yes the Czechs in general are cold people too, and perhaps they do complain alot however at least they are true to their emotions and feelings. I cannot stand this Toronto attitude and especially how so many people here think Toronto is the Centre of the Universe and they actually think its mini-NY. In general the people here are so fake, it just gets to me. So far I think South Africa was a great experience.
Comment from: Skyone Published: 09:53:28 15.10.2014
Second!! That will give them something to moan about.
Comment from: jezovec Published: 06:06:39 14.10.2014
Indeed that the pitifull creature is a troll. Now he baits car makers and awaits somebody mention Škoda Auto to start trash-dancing and yelling "its German, German, German!!!" Well known pattern with this diagnose. Ignoring it is the the best indeed, why waste our good will here?
Comment from: Published: 04:57:05 14.10.2014
Wouldn't it be better to just ignore this ignorant nonsense? Quite apart from the deeply irritating use of symbols in an apparently random, meaningless way.....
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 04:55:03 14.10.2014
Top 10 global auto makers are those from U.S.A, Japan, Germany, S.Korea, France..............NO CZECH company to be found anywhere in the list of top 10, not in top 20 not 30 100? ^^ and that's the biggest company in CZECH.....Thank you...
Comment from: VLM Published: 03:35:17 14.10.2014
Definitely an ignorant nasty bastard - sorry, troll. The list is long and varied but one from me as he asks so nicely. Preciosa.
Comment from: jezovec Published: 02:54:44 14.10.2014
Hye Ran Cho is probably just trolling but in case he is really as ignorant as he appears here is a little information for him - AVG (antivirus software), Avast (antivirus software), Škoda Transportation (tramways, rail locomotives), Škoda Machine Tools or Škoda Power (turbines), Linet (hospital equipment), Zbrojovka Brno (guns), Zetor (tractors), Aero Vodochody (jets - well, these guys are a bit in troubles lately, but historically well competitive)...
Comment from: Footbiscuit Published: 02:48:41 14.10.2014
Yup, ignorant... Skoda Auto, Bata, Skoda Plzen, various breweries, a couple anti-virus solutions, etc..
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 02:09:56 14.10.2014
VLM: Good job^^ now name one Czech based company that competes internationally... Czechs think they are so~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~smart! Then you should have at least one single competitive company right? And please don't put Czech and Germany in the same breath because no!!!!body does that except for all Czechs^^..Would you put Japan and Vietnam in the same sentence? that's exactly how people outside of this tiny country see Czech...Thank you^^
Comment from: VLM Published: 10:07:14 14.10.2014
Hye Ran Cho is probably just trolling but in case he is really as ignorant as he appears here is a little information for him.- A far from comprehensive list of Czech inventions Prokop Divis (1698-1765), The Invention of Lightning Rod, Frantisek Krizik (1847-1941), The Construction of the Arc Lamp with Automatic Regulation, Jan Jansky (1873-1921), Classified Four Blood Groups Otto Wichterle (1888-1986), The Inventor of the Soft (Hydrogel) Contact Lenses and the Inventor of the Silon Jan Evangelista Purkyne (1787-1869), Formulation of the Cell Theory and the Examination of the Skin Surface as the Basis of Fingerprints Identification Gregor Johann Mendel (1822-1884), The Founder of Genetics and the Discoverer of the Essential Laws of Inheritance Josef Sousedik (1894-1944), The Inventor in the Field of Electrical Machines such as Asynchronous Motor with an Automatic Starter Viktor Kaplan (1876-1934), Constructed Water Turbine with Adjustable Blades of the Propeller Wheel Josef Ressel (1793-1857), Construction of the Screw Propeller Alois Senefelder (1771-1834), The Inventor of Lithography Jakub Husnik (1837-1916), Heliotype Inventor More recent work can be found here
Praguer(Guest) Published: 10:20:31 13.10.2014
Praguer(Guest) Published: 10:17:37 13.10.2014
to Hye Ran .Cho and Mcd: If we Czechs are so inherently bad, you can always leave. Nobody keeps you here. Btw, can you answer me one simple question? If somebody behaved in your countries as arrogantly as you in the Czech republic, I presume you would be quite offended. We are not primitive tribe and you are not 19th century colonizers! Stop anti-Czech hate!
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 09:47:08 13.10.2014
Before dealing with Czech people on a business purpose I thought that Czechs are warm and mild people people, on....but after dealing with them and having their language translated...I found that their negative mind has reason for it...what they say, act toward one another is nothing but poison to their negative ..never encouraging....complain and complain...never happy, satisfied..just very very very thing they are so good at is that they pretend to be something they are public...which is not their true nature....a lot of them have twisted and bent me on will see
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 09:27:52 13.10.2014
To: Praguer I don't want you to change, in fact I don't think you will change but....truth is truth...your government is working very hard to achieve investments from other countries and it's no secret that Czech has been growing with direct investments from foreign money...Name one Czech based company that competes in the one Czech invention....Czech is not known for anything...So be nice to people from other countries that they are here is actually advantageous for you
Comment from: Published: 02:24:50 13.10.2014
I agree Kyle.Nunyabiznazz :) you made many points. Someone said here that he thought that the Czech mentality was due the communism. I can say that they had communism because of such mentality :) Try to install communism in Western Europe. So Law of Attraction works perfectly... :)
Jan(Guest) Published: 02:59:59 08.10.2014
I take the alleged Czech way all the way. I have been living in Canada the past 8 years and there is nothing more nauseating than living around a lot with no sense of the preposterous. I have to hear it said every day how lovely Canadians are. Nice, polite, dripping with humility. In fact, I sometimes feel like the nation is convinced that everybody loves them and wants to be like them. The most painful country to live in for a person like me. A theme park, and Australia is similarly annoying. I found no other countries so dreadful in this regard.
Praguer(Guest) Published: 09:34:08 04.10.2014
To mrkonig: So you hope that "larger Czech towns will soon be flooded with migrants from the developing world, and once entire neighbourhoods become Asian / African / Muslim". And we will become multicultural paradise. Just like outskirts of Paris, London, Malmö, or Birmingham (look at this: I sincerely hope we never become multicultural in this way. To Hye Ran .Cho: Try tell to Dane/Dutchman/Austrian or any other citizen of some smaller country that his country would be nothing without foreigners.What do you think that average citizen of these countries would answer to such arrogant statement? For your statement that many people in the world don't know that the Czech republic exist: If someone does not know that we are exist, it is just proof of his or her ignorance. For the record: I would be deeply ashamed if I now learned that there is some country in the middle of Africa or Oceania and I did not know about it. For your information: I am not intolerant. IF I LIVED IN FOREIGN COUNTRY, I WOULD RESPECT ALL THEIR CUSTOMS EVEN THESE I WOULD FIND WEIRD OR REPULSIVE. So please, respect us the same way. We will never change. Every nation in the world either remained the same (in the very basic traits) or demised!
Comment from: Kyle.Nunyabiznazz Published: 02:18:39 03.10.2014
Don't bother interacting with people that can't take jokes or criticisms. That goes for anyone of any nationality. Living in Prague has taught me how to identify and cut off people like that. I suggest everyone else do the same as they're poison for your mind.
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 10:54:21 02.10.2014
Czechs are very very protective of nation, which is not a bad thing...but they are often in denial of simple truth..I believe it might be better to change the negative things for positive than just keep denying...isn't it? This tells me Czechs are not mature enough yet...They can't take jokes, facts, truths...just denying with gloomy facial expression..thinking they are so smart....what a joke man...
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 07:44:08 02.10.2014
There are many nice and warm Czech people, I actually got a lot of help from them. However, after living here for certain period dealing with Czechs on a daily basis, I found that many many Czech are very negative who is always looking at the negative side and get stuck with it whereas many Americans and people from developed countries I met try to look on the positive side. In my opinion, Czech think too highly of themselves where the truth is that they can't organize anything by themselves... Their negativity never ends...keep on complaining after another...find another thing to complain about....thinking they are so smart.... To tell the truth, no one in the world doesn't give a damn about Czech and Czech people, in fact a lot of them don't even know this country exist....
Comment from: Hye Ran .Cho Published: 07:18:15 02.10.2014
The thing about Czech people is that this country would be nothing without foreign investment and foreigners and tourist. In Prague, more 60% live off of tourism related jobs, but they think they are special.....In my honest opinion, they are 50 years behind from other western Europeans in many ways..they are simply incompetent people
mrkonig(Guest) Published: 10:24:05 01.10.2014
Czechs are a sad bunch. Although their brothers in Austria are quite similar in many ways. I only hope larger Czech towns will soon be flooded with migrants from the developing world, and once entire neighbourhoods become Asian / African / Muslim, maybe THEN the Czechs will change their attitudes and realise that they are wrong. That racism is not okay, and that the black Christian lady living round would be a wonderful friend to have. That the Syrian muslim man is simply here sharing his cousine, etc. As somebody who lived in the Czech lands from the age of 5 -17 (13 years!) and only visit twice every 3 years or so, I have at this point lost the patience I have for these people. Let me make it clear to skull-heads such as Praguer (see below) - you have a lot to learn about decency. It is NOT okay to complain all the time, it is NOT okay to be miserable when dealing with customers (destroys businesses potentially), it is not okay to constantly blame others (minorities, politicians, past historic events..), blame yourself for your own misfortune. If you are unhappy, do something. Don't expect handouts and free unicorns. You won't get them. Be grateful for what you have. Think and be rational, not hostile and ignorant.
Sasa (CZ)(Guest) Published: 11:30:49 25.09.2014
In a reaction to the comments a little farther bellow, yes, I agree we have lots to learn from other nations. There are things obviously working for the rest of the world while we pay millions of dollars/euros/czech crowns to try to do as much and we fail misserably. But as much as I don't like the way "Praguer" is talking here, I need to give him a point in one thing and by that, I need to ask you: Don't you think too high of yourself? YES, we DO have things to learn but from the way you talk, it pretty much sounds like an implication of we should learn from YOU. And as Praguer said, you're not a teacher here. The same way I hate the European attitude they showed toward Indians when they first came to America, the same way I hate the attitude the modern nations have towards African tribes, calling them primitive and trying to "civilise" them, the same way you can't just march here and try to civilise us. There are thousands of years of culture and national development involved in what we are like now (no, it didn't start with communism, thank you), and to think you can make us the way you wish to have us - or the way you are/know it from your home country - in whatever time you expect it to take is just plain stupid and arrogant. Sure, we can learn and we can be positive and happy, we are humans too, after all, what human doesn't want to be happy, but we need to take our sweet time; we need to do it in our own pace. Thank you. (I'm not gonna come back here to react if you reply to this, please take it just as a thing to think about..)
Praguer(Guest) Published: 10:15:04 25.09.2014
Jsme jací jsme, jiní nebudeme, a komu se to nelíbí, ať si p*del políbí.
Arjun(Guest) Published: 08:33:51 24.09.2014
As a foreign product of Czech Parents, fluent in Czech, and having Iived in Czech Republic, Severni Morava for 8 years, and I am also glad to be out. What Anders said rang with me here as it was something like a prison. The atmosphere in the air is not positive. Czechs are the world's 2nd largest consumers of alcohol and if it wasn't for that easy accessibility and relativity cheap alcohol, I truly wonder how that would reflect on their society. I found many Czechs to be insecure, jealous, nosy, individually arrogant and flippant wannabe know-it-alls, in the hope to appear intelligent or at least to try to make themselves believe it. They also have a problem saying, "I apologize, and will fix the problem" when they make a mistake. This I experienced a number of times, notably in business dealings as the customer. They resort to making absurd excuses or counter accusations which makes the situation worse. I speculate that this country has a mass psychosis complex, primarily a low sense of self esteem. I believe that this is due to being the conquered and not notably fighting back their colonizers physically and culturally, historically speaking. Instead they resort to "Svejkism" (passive aggressive behaviour) to (in their own minds) appear smarter and that being their victory, where in fact, nothing changed. They were still under the colonizer's thumb regardless. That would make anybody go crazy.
Comment from: Kyle.Nunyabiznazz Published: 08:46:00 17.09.2014
@anna "we chzechs are glad in our little mudhole of pessimism, we like to call ourselves names and stupid and lame and thieves. but don't you dare to repeat it if you're not czech-born :D" that's exactly what grinds me. It's ok for Czech's to say it about other Czechs. It's ok for Czechs to say it about foreigners. It's somehow a big problem if foreigners say it about Czechs. Not sure how to say double standard in Czech, but that's exactly what it is.
anna(Guest) Published: 10:49:16 16.09.2014
i think you (all) make a whole bigger issue of it that it already is. on one hand i'm sometimes feeling wierd when i'm walking on the street and i'm the only one smiling - no reason, just happy to be alive - but on the other hand i'm so freaking glad, that i live in a country, where when you have a bad day and you just dont want to talk and be all smiley and happy and positive, it is ok, nobody is making you to. and i think, we chzechs are glad in our little mudhole of pessimism, we like to call ourselves names and stupid and lame and thieves. but don't you dare to repeat it if you're not czech-born :D. and to MAX, why the hell have you lived here for so long since it was such a torture? if you want to live in another country you shoud better accept their mentality and in this country people are POd. so what? :D
Pavell(Guest) Published: 03:26:08 16.09.2014
Pečlivě jsme si pročetl předchozí příspěvky. A protože hodně z Vás říká, že tu není jen hostem, ale žije tu naplno svůj život, věřím, že budete schopni reagovat i v češtině. Nebo ne? Myslím teď jmenovitě Brodrika, Kyle.Nunyabiznazze a baltykgdyniu (jak jistě víte, v češtině se i jména skloňují). V roce 1992 jsem začal hledat byty pro učitele angličtiny a služby "expatům" jsem poskytoval denně 4 roky, poté jsme se přesunul do prodejů a expaty už potkávám spíše v pozicích ředitelů realitních a developerských firem. Přesto si dodnes ty první 4 roky pamatuji, protože to byl start mé profesionální kariéry a protože to byl trochu byl i kulturní náraz. Tehdy nebyl Internet a v Praze fungovala jediná půjčovna VHS kazet filmů v originálním znění (kousek od kulaťáku, vzpomene si někdo na jméno?), jedni i druzí (myslím Češi a expati) se učili od sebe navzájem. Vzájemný kulturní náraz byl tehdy daleko tvrdší než dnes. Přesto jsem se tehdy nesetkával s tak nadřazenými a hloupými komentáři ze strany expatů, jaké jsem našel na této stránce. Proč? A osobně to baltykgdynia: já Vaši přítelkyni neznám, ale nadávat někomu do čůráků, tak, jak to udělala ona a vy jste to veřejně odpapouškoval, to je v češtině naprosto nepřípustné. Je to za jakoukoli hranou slušnosti. Takto si mluvte doma, ale netahejte to na veřejnost. Pavel
Comment from: Kyle.Nunyabiznazz Published: 12:34:40 09.09.2014
@Praguer don't you find it a bit xenophobic to call us guests in the country? What if we've paid into the system long enough to have permanent residence? What if we're even citizens? At what point do our opinions finally count for something on how things run here?
Pavel(Guest) Published: 07:27:15 07.09.2014
People, you need italian ancestors, german ancestors, jewish ancestors, slavs ancestors, family history from 16,th century to be czech.
presle(Guest) Published: 07:07:40 27.08.2014
I see it when I come back for a visit. I think that big factor in that is media. Basically it works on a principle where Czech people a fed by media the paradise image of The Outside World and the image of how everything is bad in Czech. People are used to good news so these bad news all the time must mean that everything is going bad, right? Because they don't see the good stuff on TV so it cannot exist anymore, right? In the end they get the image of the Hellish Czech Republic on one side and lush green grass with unicorns and rainbows abroad on the other side. And they want their unicorn as well but do realise the zero probability of getting it. The next step is "It's not fair, I want my rainbow unicorns too!!" and they start looking for the responsible person. Which are the minorities. Those, who realise that minorities are not the ones who decide, will conclude that it's the other Czechs who are standing in the way of having rainbow unicorns just like those abroad in Czech Republic. Top it with politicians always saying things like "it's a fault of the unemployed / retired / ... people because we have to give them money and we can't invest that money into creating jobs...", the still surviving sense of helplessness against those in power and ingrained fear that next time it's going to be you. And voila. You have the negative untrusting people. On the other hand I would agree with an opinion lower: We are entitled to say anything against Czechs but you as an outsider are not. The same goes within family, friends etc. If you want to have some more good things: the Czechs tend to be cautious from the beginning but if you manage to get through the surrounding coldness you get a friend you can count on. And most of the Czechs are proud of their traditions. Especially the Easter which is quite unique.
Martin(CZ)(Guest) Published: 11:45:06 05.06.2014
I believe that for the Australian it must have been a sharp contrast :) On the other hand, being a foreigner, one attracts especially those individuals who are somehow dissatisfied and willing to share their frustration with foreign nationals who their admire. Therefore, the perception of expats might be slightly distorted. Nevertheless, it's an ill behavior indeed.
Praguer(Guest) Published: 09:09:31 30.05.2014
To Brodrik (and others): You all think that patronizing attitude towards Czechs is OK. And if some Czech native, in this case me, doesn´t agree with such colonizer-like mentality, you all think how close-minded and xenophobic is he. IMHO, opposite is true. If I lived in your country I would never dare to patronize your people the same way as you patronized Czechs. Believe or not, I would respect their mentality and cultural traits.Even if I found some of their habits repulsive, I would always remember that this is their country and I am just guest. So who is close-minded and xenophobic?
Comment from: Published: 11:33:42 30.05.2014
'Praguer', you are ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS! :) Such as a comic book without a back cover :) Lots of education are needed in Czech Republic to the so-called Czechs by people from other countries. Full stop! You are very far away from what you called 'adult'.
Praguer(Guest) Published: 10:09:05 29.05.2014
to staringinthesun: I don´t want to be told how awsome architecture or beer we have. After all, Prague architecture is largelly built by Italian architects and Czech type of beer was invented by Bavarian brewer Josef Groll. And of course there is quite a lot problems here (corruption, low political culture, etc.) I have to be blind and brainles if I didn´t see it. But this is primarily our problem and it´s up to us to fix it. As for other things you all often complain, i.e. socks in sandals, not much use of deodorants, absence of smile on public, too much smoking and drinking, too much unhealthy food, not much openmindenes, I don´t think it is something inherently negative. It is just what we are. I primarily reacted to comment of kumaking that we, due to these aspects of our mentality, want to be educated. Educated from who? From you? As I said previously, we are adult and svéprávní and you are not any kind of teachers or missionaries. I also reacted to baltykgdynia who said that older people are some kind of problem. I have never liked an opinion that problems will be fixed whe older people die out. Actually I find it totally repulsive. BTW: You are neither allowed to stay here nor baned from stay in this piece of land. You are here from your free will and nobody neither keeps you here nor kicks you out.
Comment from: Published: 12:11:39 29.05.2014
Remember everyone, the only thing foreigners can offer Czech Republic is occasionally their food. For goodness sake don't offer an opinion unless it's about how awesome Czech beer is or how nice the buildings are. Just shut up, pay taxes, and be glad your allowed to exist on this piece of land. @Praguer you're on an expats website, which obviously will have a lot of foreigners complaining about their host country. Coming on here and trolling them is just you making Czech people look stupid.
Praguer(Guest) Published: 07:30:41 28.05.2014
To Baltykgdynia: Yes, I confess, I am moron. I should read it more carefuly. My statement was based on the fact that your comment was dated 2014. But of course you were talking about an event which happened four years ago. So yet again I acted like moron and I apologize. All I wanted to tell in my previous comments is that we Czechs have certain mentality and certain cultural traits, which are neither better nor worse than - for example - British mentality or British cultural traits. That´s all. Yes, we maybe don´t smile, don´t use much deodorant, we wear socks in sandals, we are reserved and suspicious, we smoke in public and eat too much pork and dumplings and too little vegetables. I don´t think that there is anything inherently wrong on it. That is just what we are. If anyone of foreigners find it repulsive, nobody keeps him here. Yes there is huge problem with corruption in public administration and quite bad legislative. But it is primarily our problem and it is up to us to fix it. We are neither primitive tribe nor defeated Nazi Germany, and your are neither colonizer or missionary, nor allied administration.
Megaherz(Guest) Published: 03:55:59 28.05.2014
I hate to say it but the most part of the negative comments below is true. I am a Russian guy and I hate the locals' attitude towards foreigners. They just definitely hate you because you "are not from their village". I have many friends from Asia (Taiwan, PRC) and they all agree such xenophobia can hardly be found somewhere else. And I can feel it even more because I understand 100% of their language. They are just afraid of everything.
Comment from: Thomas1930 Published: 02:19:06 28.05.2014
Prague you are indeed a total moron :) Yes I needed a translator like you said... 4 years ago!!!! Guess what, in 4 years you can actually learn a language on a communicative level. I showed your posts to my Czech friends and that's what the said: Curak curakem zustane i kdyz mu nikdy nevstane lol. They all are ashamed of Czechs like you. Something to think about maybe? Because with posts like this you just dig your grave deeper and deeper and believe me, 6 feet deep is deep enough :)The conversation ends for me here. Have a nice life living in your perfect bubble.
Comment from: Rob_Prague_2004 Published: 01:26:23 28.05.2014
Dear oh dear, I think they should change the rules so that you force people to have an account before you post here (as is the case with the forums...) @ Praguer: The trvaly pobyt/ wife translating occurred 4 years ago, it is perfectly feasible he learned the language competently in the intervening period. Speaking Czech is not speaking Czech is not a binary state of affairs. There are those with zero Czech and all levels up to native fluency. I don't think it's "arrogant" to not have native fluency, as most "expats" are here working full time and don't use Czech in their work. I can complete day to day transactions in Czech, though often I'm treated like a retard (I suppose the same could happen in the UK if a foreigner staggers through poor, ungrammatical English). When I make comments about improving customer service here, I don't mean it in a patronising way, it's just an observation. Try getting served in a restaurant 10 years ago and compare the experience to now - there is a difference. I feel sorry for those who feel "imprisoned" here. Do they have other experiences in foreign countries and how did they find that? I found France was much tougher in terms of dealing with the people - here you are pretty much left alone.